Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:10 You're listening to big city Catholics of podcast conversation with Bishop Robert Brennan dos and Bishop of Brooklyn and father Chris. HEK the rector of the co cathedral of St. Joseph. We have with us father Carlos Velazquez. We talk about the Eucharist, but before we begin, uh, I'm gonna ask Bishop if you would lead us in prayer,
Speaker 2 00:00:30 In the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit. Amen. Amen, Lord Jesus Christ. You gave us the sacrament of your body and blood to guide us on our Pilgrim way through this life and lead us to the joys of heaven, instill in us that great love for you and depreciation for your presence, that we may bear witness to you in all that we say and all that we do. You who are Christ our Lord. Amen. Amen. In the name of the father and of the son of the holy spirit. Amen. Amen. Amen.
Speaker 1 00:01:00 Amen. So we're, uh, gathered together, uh, three priests. <laugh> one elevated to the fullness of the priest did, but, uh, as Bishop, but, uh, to talk about a central part of our, of our life, which is, uh, an central part of our Catholic faith, which is the Eucharist, um, Bishop, um, can you tell us a little bit about, you know, why we've invited father Carlos here today and, and, uh, what, what is the main theme of this, of this conversation?
Speaker 2 00:01:31 Well, this week with the celebration of the feast of Corpus Christi, we begin here in Brooklyn, Queens, and really all around the country, this period of Eucharistic revival. And it's going to be an opportunity for us to deepen our faith in the Eucharist locally and nationally. Now we're not coming out of a vacuum. There have been people who've been working on this for a while. So even though we're just introducing this in a very public way, um, father Jino has been gathering a group to, um, follow up not only on the Senate, but also on this Eucharistic revival and father, uh, Velasquez who has, is in the midst of studying in liturgy and sacramental, uh, theology, um, serves on that committee and is really doing a lot of the work at one of the subcommittees. So, um, so hopefully today our being together gives us a chance to talk about this Eucharistic revival, the reasons behind it, what we hope to accomplish, and then even more importantly, just some early reflections on the mystery of the Eucharist in our lives, in our lives as Catholics and for the three of us in our lives as priest.
Speaker 1 00:02:50 Amen. Amen. Yeah. I, you know, so father Carlos, uh, I heard just recently about this Eucharistic revival. This is the, that's the title of the, of this event, Eucharistic revival. Uh, I had to Google it and I found a great website and a great YouTube video from a, a religious nun talking about, uh, this, this idea, this, this, this program. Um, but you have much more knowledge about it. <laugh> uh, tell us a little bit about this, this program and, and how you've been a part of it in the diocese.
Speaker 3 00:03:21 Yeah. So, uh, Bishop Brennan, um, put together a, a committee to be able to plan, um, how the Eucharistic revival will be, um, will be celebrated here within Brooklyn and Queens as a response really to the invitation from the bishops, um, of, of, of the United States who have called for this Eucharistic revival. So a number of years ago, there was a pew study, um, that, uh, reflected that there's a great percentage of Catholics that are NPUs that maybe, uh, are away from our pews right now, or even maybe who aren't even involved in the church at all, who don't believe in the, in the real presence of our Lord, um, in the Eucharist. Um, and, uh, that's a high percentage, and then that's an alarming and alarming, uh, reality to the bishops and to the entire church. So the, the bishops have kind of United around this reality that, that there's a need to ignite a fire yet again, uh, within the whole country, a need to want to, um, teach us about what the Eucharist is all about, about why it's so important to us about, um, how Jesus is truly and really substantially present, uh, in the Eucharist that it's not bread and wine, that it's not just a symbol, but that it is Jesus is very present his very self, his very life.
Speaker 3 00:04:46 Um, and you know, if we really truly understand that and we really, and truly believe that and live that out, that'll change our lives and it can change the world. Um, so the, so the, the desire is that that'll happen on, um, a parish level, a diocesan level, and then a national level, allowing that fire to, um, spread through all areas of the church, uh, and strengthening our belief and our devotion, uh, to the blessed settlement.
Speaker 1 00:05:16 Amen. Wow. That's exciting too, Bishop, that would be quite exciting for the diocese, uh, on a local level. I mean, imagine as that, as you know, as father said spreads, but on a local level, it's exciting.
Speaker 2 00:05:29 It really would. I mean, you know, you look at periods in time, um, recent history. So back in the nineties, Pope John Paul, um, instituted the year of the Eucharist. Uh, there, there are things that we do, um, some of the examples of world youth day, there are things we do that really do reignite that fire that get, get us back, um, uh, into that appreciation. Um, one of the realities, if you will, about our life as Catholics is, um, I think we can easily get very lax about the whole thing, you know, because the Eucharist is so available to us. We can go through the motions. Um, there's a great meditation on, I, I think it's on the feast of Charles bar may, but it's from St. Charles bar may in the, in, in the office of readings where he he's talking to precinct, he says, so you get it, you get distracted when you're at mass.
Speaker 2 00:06:27 Well, what were you doing before mass? You know, did you come rushing in and throw on the investments and, and rush out onto the Alta? I think we can all say at times guilty, just charged <laugh>, but we need concrete reminders to stop. And to say, what we're about to do is nothing less than amazing. It's what we're about to do is, is be beyond this world and, and, and to stop and think about this gift of what the Eucharist really and truly is. Um, and hopefully the, it is exciting that the events and the reflections will awaken something within the hearts of all of us as individuals, but then something for us as a community. Mm-hmm, <affirmative>
Speaker 1 00:07:17 The idea of, of ex re-experiencing reviving the, the love of the true presence of our Lord Jesus and the Eucharist, um, is something, you know, to your point, Bishop, when the Eucharist is so easily and readily available to us, you know, there are parts of the world where mass is only celebrated once a month, maybe if, you know, uh, because of a shortage of priests because of the location. And here, you know, in Brooklyn, you have so many churches, so close together, one mile apart, really in many, many regards,
Speaker 2 00:07:54 In many different languages,
Speaker 1 00:07:55 In many different languages.
Speaker 2 00:07:57 Exactly. You, you know, it's funny, I, I, I'd be curious about your take on this, but the experience of C is also part of this, because we were already concerned about, um, the, the faith in the real presence of Jesus, but then in some ways, the early experience of COVID heightened our awareness, but then the long experience of COVID may have made us a little bit lax. Um, I was in Ohio of course at the time. So I remember that those early days of missing mass when we were not able to gather in our churches, because we really didn't know much about the virus. I found that people really missed it, that, that it really woke inside. People woke this eye, people evoke this sense of loss. Something's really off something's missing in my life. My fear is now in Ohio, we were back over about six weeks.
Speaker 2 00:08:55 We were back on Pentecost Sunday of that year, the last days of may and early days of June. But when we came back, it was kind of with a lot of distancing and lots of ups and downs. And then even since I've come here, the, um, the Omnicon breakout, so now it's been extended. And I think in some ways we've gotten accustomed to being at home and, and to say, well, you know, I didn't get there last week. Is it really important to get there this week? I'll eventually get there. And, and that's just human nature. That's true for all of us. I, I dunno. Do, would you see a similar kind of a thing that experience of immediate loss, but then the greater laxity among all of us?
Speaker 3 00:09:43 Yeah, very much so. You know, I, I think I, I read somewhere during the pandemic as pastors and priests, we were worried about how do we get folks back? How do we get them back to church? How do we reach out to them during the pandemic? And after the pandemic? Um, there was, uh, something that I read that said that it takes about three months for someone to develop a habit. And, you know, we were locked away for a good amount of time and people have been away for so long from the church that some folks, um, kind of created that habit, as you said, of kind of being away from the blessed sacrament, being away from mass, being away from the sacraments, maybe becoming accustomed to participating virtually on a live stream or something like that. Um, and I think that this Eucharistic revival is a great opportunity, as you said, Bishop, to kind of take a step back and to kind of reflect really on what the Eucharist is really about why it's so important to us and why it matters that we be there, why it matters that we be present in the same way that Jesus is truly and really present in the Eucharist that we be truly and really present to him in word in sacrament and in our daily lives, allowing that transformation that happens in and through the sacraments and, and in the Eucharist to transform our lives.
Speaker 3 00:10:58 Um, and this gives us that opportunity to do that because you're right, some of us, um, either have been too close to it and we can become lax and we can kind of take it for granted sometimes, or others of us, maybe haven't been as close. And because we haven't been as close, we're not really truly appreciating what we have no matter where we are. And all of us are different walks of, of life and different parts of the journey. And, and this Eucharistic survival can be an opportunity for all of us where we are to kind of take that step back and say, what is this really about? Why is the Eucharist so important and why does it matter for me in my life and in my relationship with God.
Speaker 2 00:11:37 Exactly, exactly. And, you know, um, for, for us as Catholics, this, this gift defines who we are. It's very much, it's the center of who we are in our Catholic life. Um, without the Eucharist, nothing mm-hmm <affirmative> without the Eucharist or nothing
Speaker 1 00:11:56 That, you know, I, I think, uh, I reflect on, on the Eucharist and I think of, um, Archbishop Fulton sheen, you know, who, uh, was always preached about and, and wrote about to his priests, um, the importance of spending time in the presence of the blessed sacrament. He, he had a holy hour each day, um, to spend at least an hour in the presence of the blessed sacrament. And, um, this, uh, on the promotional material for the Eucharistic revival is this YouTube video from, uh, of a, this habited sister, this religious nun who's there. And speaking about, uh, her encounter with Eucharistic adoration, um, her, her experience, uh, meeting Christ in Eucharistic adoration and how that changed, uh, her ability to know about Jesus rather to, than to, to know now, to know Jesus. And, um, I thought that was really beautiful. And I was thinking about in my own life, um, my experiences with Eucharistic adoration, um, in, in, in this parish here at the co cathedral, we offer Eucharistic adoration every Friday and at St. Teresa Avala every Wednesday morning until noon. Um, in my previous parish was the same every Friday. Um, when I was in high school though at cathedral prep where father Carlos and I went to to high school together as classmates,
Speaker 4 00:13:26 Not so long ago, not so long, <laugh>, it's getting <laugh>, it's getting longer. Geez. Um,
Speaker 1 00:13:33 You know, we had, which was a great experience for, for us, like every, was it Thursday, we had Eucharistic adoration, right. Every Thursday. And, um, uh, as a high school kid, for me, it was just a good excuse to get outta class. You know, I loved being signed up to go for cuz it was half an hour out of class, but then realizing just how important that half an hour was, uh, where you, you felt drawn to go during your lunch break, uh, to go up to the chapel and pray. And, um, those were great experiences, uh, you know, Bishop, can you share some experiences that, that you've had that were meaningful and, and, and life changing?
Speaker 2 00:14:16 Well, as I said, your life, your high school's experiences are longer than you think further away than you think mine are even much further
Speaker 4 00:14:25 Away than goes <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:14:27 Um, I grew up in a time when Eucharistic Aion was really not, um, uh, practiced very widely in the church. And yet I had three experiences that really stayed with me through my life. Um, one of them was a regular experience. So I was the sacristan in my parish church. And in addition to the weekend duties, there was a Monday night Novina and I always worked the Monday nights. And, um, it was a, the miraculous metal Novina, but it was done in the context of exposition and Ben addiction. And so even though there wasn't much going on in the church and in the world in terms of adoration, I saw at least a little bit of it every single Monday night, and that had a certain impact on me. Um, and then the other thing in my home parish, we had a pastor who, um, who would continue that practice of 40 hours devotion and he, every year, and I think it was in the fall somewhere around November, he would have the 40 hours and that gathered the whole parish.
Speaker 2 00:15:46 It got every group involved, it got, um, the school children involved, the religious ed students involved. And there was a fraternal piece among the priest. I remember that for the closing mass, all the priests from the area would, can celebrate the mass. There'd be a big procession. And then, um, the closing mass that too stayed with me and then on a quiet level, and it was only once a year, but once a year, there would be a day. It was during the week before Thanksgiving, in my high school, where there was adoration for an extended period of time. Those three things stayed with me. Um, at that time, you know, what was still, always going on, I have to say this in fairness, 40, um, not 40 hours, the, uh, nocturnal adoration. And they used to go through the night, they were the faithful. They really stayed strong on that.
Speaker 1 00:16:35 If you can wake up at three in the morning to leave your warm bed on a cold night winter's night and head down to
Speaker 2 00:16:41 Church, make that community. Wow. Yeah. You know, so, but I guess in my vocation, uh, journey, I often say, I never remember not wanting to be a priest, but those experiences really fed in to that love of the Eucharist. Um, and the more I think about it now, especially as I get older, it was really the Eucharist that drew me into wanting to be a priest. And so, um, adoration was, was big part of that. How about yourself, father Carlos?
Speaker 3 00:17:15 Yeah. I had similar experiences growing up. I grew up right close to here, a Delhi street, sacred heart. And, um, my pastor when I was growing up, used to have Eucharistic adoration during lent, uh, at following stations of the cross, we'd have exposition and he'd expose for a few minutes and then we'd go right into Ben addiction. And I remember as a kid, not truly understanding what it was, but just thinking to myself, wow, that's cool because it was different. It was, it was not what we were used to seeing Sunday morning at mass. Right. Uh, but then going into high school where I met father HEU and having those experiences in, in that, in that chapel at, at cathedral prep. And I remember one of the things that always stood out to me about Eucharistic Federation at the prep was that usually they assigned two of us to be there.
Speaker 3 00:18:01 So there were two guys in the chapel by themselves, um, in this chapel that seats 300 people. And sometimes your partner who was there for adoration with you would have a quiz or would have an exam and wasn't able to be there. And I remember sitting there by myself on several occasions in that chapel, um, and kind of not knowing what to do. And one of the priests on, on that was on faculty said to him, you know, what do I do? It's just strange. I'm here by myself. I'm not sure what, what this is about. And he just said to me, it's you and Jesus, just you and him staring at one another, just talk to him. And it kind of clicked as a teenager. This is wonderful time for me to spend face to face time with Jesus and to just talk to him, to let him talk to me, um, you know, growing up then and going into the seminary, having more of those experiences and weekly, holy hours now in my parish now, um, we have adoration every Thursdays.
Speaker 3 00:19:00 Uh, then also first Fridays, we've had 40 hours devotions as well. And you know, you, you, you, uh, you mentioned father and you getting up at 3:00 AM. I was so afraid when we first did, uh, 40 hours, you know, Bushwick, isn't the safest of neighborhoods. And I said, are people really gonna come out at three o'clock in the morning? And I got up, cuz we had extended 40 complete hours. We didn't stop. And I got up at two, three in the morning, four in the morning and every time I went down, there were over a hundred people in the church, huh. Wow. At those hours of the night. Wow. And so it's just clear that people love the Eucharist, right? Some of us maybe don't fully understand you're grasp it or maybe we're taken it for granted, as you mentioned, Bishop. Um, but there are those who really truly understand it.
Speaker 3 00:19:47 And when you truly understand it and you truly live it, it does transform our lives. Um, and so, um, yeah, I mean, I hope that this time in these next three years, as we live through this Eucharistic reliable gives us an opportunity to strengthen that devotion, to strengthen that love, to strengthen that desire, to want to be with the Lord face to face with him, but then also to carry him with us into the world, into the places where maybe his real presence can't be sacramentally, but where we become those living sacraments and bringing him to the world,
Speaker 2 00:20:18 You know, you raise a very good point. Um, and, and, and it's while the large numbers in terms of like pew study polls and all of that raised concerns that are legitimate concerns for those who are involved for those who are coming to mass, for those who do go before the blessed sacrament and adoration, the faith is really, really strong. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and, and, and that's encouraging. And I think that's, that's important because if you're ever go and have any kind of revival, you do need that core group. And so one of the things we wanna do is encourage each other on, on that, that journey, but, you know, adoration, isn't the end of the story because the real goal of the Eucharist is the celebration of mass of holy mass. It is being together at mass with our Lord receiving him in his body and blood. So hopefully what adoration can do for us is, uh, is stir up that zeal within us, that hunger, um, to encounter the Lord Jesus in the Eucharist, um, and maybe even to make a signs, to, to draw other people into that experience
Speaker 3 00:21:33 Yeah. To baptize all nation is the name of the father son under the holy spirit. That's right. And the Eucharist is that food that we need in order to be able to do that, to nurture us in body and soul, that, that we can fulfill that command.
Speaker 1 00:21:44 Incredible, incredible. <laugh> the, uh, in, in another experience or that I actually, something else that I've read, um, is, is that a number of men who are priests recently ordained or, or however many years ordained, um, do, uh, acknowledge a, hearing an invitation to serve as a priest, hearing that call, um, feeling that, that, that call in the presence of the blessed sacrament. And, uh, so it's also very much, uh, United with our vocations office and, uh, and perhaps, uh, father Chris Bethy in, in, in promoting via a great help to promoting this Eucharistic revival, uh, as well.
Speaker 2 00:22:34 Absolutely. And he'll tell you, cuz he's told me a number of times that that experience of adoration and of being together at mass, that those are some of the real highlights at the different, um, vocation, um, retreats that he has, that, that the fellows really seem to look for those opportunities for, um, time before the blessed sacrament and then to be together for holy mass.
Speaker 1 00:22:59 It's something so countercultural it's something. So, um, our, our youth are, are so overly bombarded with, uh, noise with stimulation, uh, of, of, of Netflix shows and, and Amazon prime and Hulu and andr and all the rest and music, and to come to sit, uh, in the presence of our savior, the presence of our Lord. Um, and sometimes in silence sometimes, maybe a song played occasionally, uh, yet, uh, I remember at, at holy child, Jesus, uh, we invited the young children to come and, and father Carlos, you, you and I were speaking a little bit about that too. I want to hear your, your take at St. Bridget, but, um, I invited our, our young children. They were the, the schools across the street from the church and, you know, I'm, I'm a public school grad. So, uh, I don't really, I didn't have any context of how often do do our Catholic school kids go to mass.
Speaker 1 00:24:02 And, and it's usually like once a month, you know, as a school mass. So I said, I'm saying mass every day, uh, they're across the street. If we can arrange away that the seventh and eighth graders come on Mondays and the fifth and sixth graders come on Tuesdays. And, and we were able to bring, uh, pretty much every grade to mass weekly. Um, and then during lent, I said, let's add half an hour of Eucharistic adoration after mass. And my parishioner said, you're never gonna get third graders, second graders to sit quietly in the presence of the blessed sacrament. Uh, they're gonna be antsy and itching. And, and miraculously, of course they were great. Uh, they, they watched, they paid attention. They, I, and I would speak through that. The, the Eucharistic adoration say, now boys and girls, we're gonna look at the monsters. We're gonna look at Jesus and in our heads and I would help them to pray. And they were just, just beautiful, beautiful experiences. And for me as a priest, it was an incredible opportunity. Father, Carlos, you invite your school children, uh, to Eucharistic adoration as well.
Speaker 3 00:25:10 Yes. Yeah. So we have them at St. Bridge at St. Francis Catholic academy. They come over, uh, on first Fridays, they have, we have school mass. So the whole school comes over for first, Friday mass. And then the blessed sacrament is exposed all day for adoration and the classes come back for half hour slots through throughout the day. Uh, and then the whole school comes back together again at the end of the day for Ben addiction before dismissal. And it's great. You know, I, I, I did this at St. Mary get to heaven where I was pastor before as well. And we introduced us with working with the staff and then went with the principal. And one of the funny thing is that, uh, one of the kids that was in the second grade, um, did a little, uh, did a little card for me.
Speaker 3 00:25:50 I forget it was for my birthday, or maybe when I was leaving St. Mary get to heaven. And, um, she drew out, um, me with a very large, uh, figure in front of the altar. And, uh, she drew the ambo. She drew the altar, she drew the church, but on the altar, she chose to draw the monstrous with two candles. Uh, and I was so taken aback. I said, this is great. If, if a kid thinks about me and then thinks about the Eucharist immediately as I did my job, right. There you go. All right. So excited. Also one of the eighth graders said to me, when I asked them, I interviewed all them on their way out. And I asked them, what was your favorite part about our school? And one of the kids said to me, you know, father, that time that we had once a month with Jesus in adoration was my favorite time.
Speaker 3 00:26:40 I just loved being there. It was something that I had never experienced before. Uh, and I think that, you know, you mentioned the whole thing about camp being countercultural. Um, the reality we've been talking about, COVID the reality of where we find ourselves, whether or not we're taken through Eucharist or granted, or maybe we don't understand it completely. The Eucharist becomes that encounter, that we need to fix, that the Eucharist becomes the food that we need in order to allow ourselves to be transformed and to be made more like him, who we eat him, whom we consume like Jesus. Um, and I think that that's what this is all about. Um, this whole idea that the bishops are having, that we look to opportunities for prayer. Yeah. For added prayer, for added moments of adoration, added moments of maybe Eucharistic processions, maybe holy hours, things like that, but also sometime for study and for reflection and looking at maybe picking up, you know, literature about the Eucharist and the whole point our committee that Bishop Brennan, um, has asked us has put together, we're looking at providing resources for our parishes, for our schools throughout the year, so that we can do exactly that so that we can have holy hours so that we can have conferences.
Speaker 3 00:27:53 So we can have talks about the Eucharist literature put out so that we can get to truly understand what this is about and come into those encounters, sacramental encounters, learning encounters, the different encounters that, that help us to be able to truly understand and live out what the Eucharist is about. Um, and have that transform us and have that transform the world, um, doing that on the parish level, then looking forward soon to a big diocesan level, uh, event, a bumping event. And then there's bigger national event. That's gonna take place, uh, out in, out in, in the, um, I think it's Indian Midwest, Indianapolis, Indianapolis, Indianapolis, and, you know, you know, I've been looking at a couple of things online and different resources and, um, Bishop, uh, cousins, who's the Bishop of Crookston. Who's like the chair of this whole thing on a national level. He said, uh, uh, very recently, you know, um, that, you know, that while we don't have these mega events regularly, these national events that we did have a Eucharistic Congress, a NA a national Eucharistic Congress back in the seventies or something 1976, I remember Philadelphia. Yes. And so he said, stay, stay quiet
Speaker 4 00:29:11 Was negative.
Speaker 3 00:29:13 But one of the things he said was, you know, at that Eucharistic Congress sharing the stage were at that time, uh, Cardinal Carol boy and mother Teresa, that was one of the highlights of the Eucharistic Congress and they're saints now. So he said, you know, I'm interested to seeing who are gonna be the saints of the Eucharistic revival that we're having now, then, you know, who are the saints among us? And that's the whole point, right? The whole point as Bishop was saying was, you know, the whole point is that we behold and with we behold, by being more like Jesus, by being present to him and allowing him to be present to us and allowing him to make us into better images of his very self. Um, and that's what holiness is all about. And that's what we're about. Uh, and so the, I think the main goal of all this is yes, drawing bring us closer to the Eucharist and to a better understanding, but the overarching goal I think, is to help us to become saints, to help us to be holy genuinely, holy
Speaker 2 00:30:17 Beautifully put beautifully put,
Speaker 1 00:30:19 Imagine, uh, you know, I, I just try to put myself in your shoes Bishop, and to think, um, how incredible to be, uh, the diason Bishop. I mean, there's a lot of crosses certainly to bear. We know that, but how incredible to be the diason Bishop to witness and, and be able to direct these, these great programs and to think about being the shepherd of a diocese of so many, uh, who have the potential to be saints and how, you know, like back to what we were saying in the beginning, how this can be absolutely life changing and world changing, uh, if, if lived properly, it's a great excitement. I, I think it's very exciting.
Speaker 2 00:31:04 I'm, I'm very excited and that's, that's why I appreciate the work of all of those. Who've done the preparation and, you know, I ask people be a little patient. We're just, we are just introducing this at this point. Um, and so more will be coming. Um, but we wanted to get the word out. Yeah. And that's a big part of the reason for our discussion today. We wanna get the word out that we're moving in this direction and we are starting to come up with some ideas. Um, and we really are going to ask people to take part in those, um, events to watch for the big event in, in our diocese and the national event, the following year. But in the meantime to pray, you know, um, many of those people who would tune into a podcast like this are in fact, believe in Catholics, people who do appreciate the gift to the Eucharist, we really need your prayer. We really need you to pray and pray hard and pray fervently for the, I I'll say the success of this event, but really, um, that it is a moment of great renewal for each and every one of us.
Speaker 1 00:32:07 Amen. You know, I think we've, uh, you can never exhaust the inexhaustible, but, uh, we've, we've chatted for a good period of time now about a topic that is so important to us, and we could keep going and going and going. But I think Bishop, you end your thoughts on prayer and with ask, maybe father Carlos could perhaps end us with a prayer and then Bishop, if you would give them us our blessing. Okay. So father
Speaker 3 00:32:36 Carlos, in the name of the father and of the son of the holy spirit, amen. Amen. Made the heart of Jesus in the most blessed sacrament, be praised, adored, and loved with grateful affection at every moment in all the Tabernacles of the world, even until the end of time. Amen.
Speaker 2 00:32:53 Amen. The Mayo mighty God bless you in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit.
Speaker 3 00:32:58 Amen.
Speaker 1 00:32:58 Amen. Thank you for joining us. Bishop Robert Brennan and father Chris, he in this podcast, big city Catholics.
